Debate - who gets to keep the kid?
In all situations, we're assuming that abortion at all stages except partial birth is completely legal. Situation #1 - a married couple, who has never talked about children before, finds out that the...
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But a fetus, or even a baby at 8 months of pregnancy, will not become a human of its own accord. It requires the mother to live, or extensive machinery. How do you reconcile this?
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At 8 months it might well live unaided, though if not fed it would die. This holds true for all babies, premature or not.
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Then you would have to change your criteria for right-to-life, because before you said it was "whether something will become a human of its own accord, if left on its own?" What will you change it to?
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rephrase the question, I am uncertain what you are asking me.
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I said: "So your criteria for right-to-life is whether something will become a human of its own accord, if left on its own?" You answered: "Something like that, yeah." I responded that a baby at 8...
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Really, if all of us were left on our own, we probably wouldn't be able to feed ourselves without the modern system of supermarkets and credit cards.
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Correct, so thus, your definition needs to be changed not just to accomodate abortion laws, but also ones against murder.
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I would define murder as "the willful ending of another individual's life, provided that the other individual had no opportunity to prevent this"This would encompass most types of murder. Killing in...
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I would define murder as "the willful ending of another individual's life, provided that the other individual had no opportunity to prevent this"So, it is murder to kill a dog? A cat? A mouse? An ant?
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This depends on whether you regard dogs, cats, and ants as individuals. I'd personally regard someone who murdered a dog as someone in serious need of a broken neck and a crushed skull, but I don't...
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So you leave the definition of "individual" up to other people?
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I'd look it up in a law dictionary, perhaps.For these purposes, I'd say that "individual" means individual humans, not other species.
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Then you can murder dogs all you want? Or is there a separate law for that?
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I'd say seperate law. As much as a prefer dogs to humans, I know they mostly only provide entertainment and companionship to humans, and really are no more than kids that don't grow up or talk back.
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My dogs bark back sometimes, but that's another story. All right, so murder is "The willful ending of another individual human's life, provided that the other individual had no opportunity to prevent...
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That in most murders, the person has a chance to apologize or kiss the guy's boots or admit he was wrong, or something like that, in order to calm the killer down. It has been theorized that many...
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while I'm certain that happens sometimes, I'd consider it a minority case.Most of the time by the time you've worked up the nerve to go buy a gun, knife, or baseball bat, and come to the person's...
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Perhaps true, which is why most murders are done in the heat of the moment, which is also why first degree murders are considered the naughtiest kind by the system.
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Premeditated is a very easy word to use, and highly up to subjective reasoning.
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